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Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 14:33
by idoaa
so i come to you for help in finding news and articles regarding the conversion of airsoft to real guns.

we here at the spot that we need to show them that in order to convert them you must change parts.

any links or articles you can help me with will be great.

thank you!

Re: Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 14 Oct 2014, 23:13
by Sgt._Shaw
idoaa wrote:so i come to you for help in finding news and articles regarding the conversion of airsoft to real guns.
we here at the spot that we need to show them that in order to convert them you must change parts.
:shock: What? How could one probably think that you could convert an airsoft to a real like just like making water to ice???
I'd like to help you... just don't know how, yet.
German laws are pretty strikt on airsoft also, but at least our government knows that they are just "look-a-likes".

Re: Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 15 Oct 2014, 08:29
by matte_wo
Maybe one aspect to emphasize is the need for games and play activities in times of conflict. The human need of handling psychological distress in this way.

Also, it seems that one of the first steps is to get the government to create a focus group or start up an investigation/survey around the issue of air-soft.

Re: Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 16 Oct 2014, 12:54
by Rabagast
You could start with showing them the internals, which limits the possibility to fire projectiles driven by gunpowder to none whatsoever. There is no chamber to but the bullet before firing, there is no firing pin, there is no ejector.

Then there's the points of materials in use: A few AS weapons have good external parts, but noone I would fire a live bullet through. If the receivers would hold, the pistol grip, magazinewell or stock will most likely give in and give you a decent smack in the face.

Then its the clean barrels: When not firing shotgunshells, it is needed with barrel rifling. This is not something most airsoft outer barrels have.

I'm afraid I cannot find anything good saying its not possible, because it hasn't been an issue.
ATF and FBI seized a shipment a few years ago, claiming it was possible. After a buttstorm of critic the whole thing blew silent, atleast for now. The only responses are people mocking them, so nothing I would give your government.


Hope it all turns out good!

Re: Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 03:20
by Naitzo
I have never even heard of anyone trying to make a real gun out of a airsoft gun.
In my opinion it's not so much about "Can it be done", but more about "Who can do it".
Advanced gunsmithing skills and specialized Tools would be Critical to make Precision parts etc. Guys like you and me would end up With a fancy pipe bomb and re-arrange Our faces by the first and last pull of the trigger.

Re: Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 12:45
by baracken
It is easier to 3d print the lower receiver then convert an airsoft lower, sure it can be done just like you can convert a piece of metal to a real lower receiver. There is a video on YouTube where they show an airaoft ar15 to a gunsmith who says that its very similar to a real firearm and goes to the shop to try converting it just to find out that it can't be done.
Most airsoft guns are not to spec to a real firearm and therefore would be a pain to convert, systems ptw USA edition is the one that is closest to the real thing because the lower is milled from the real ar15 printings, but that gun I don't think you can lay your hands on in other country's then the us.

Re: Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 00:14
by noggy
never heard of anyone made a real gun out of an airsoft one

Re: Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 22:16
by Goggan

Re: Help with legalization of airsoft in israel

Posted: 06 Feb 2016, 09:03
by Sgt._Shaw
Well... to add something here: most airsofts that got metal outer-stuff, are NOT manufactured with steel or similar. It is just zinc (or similar) die casting. So they simply cannot withstand the pressure of a real bullet, maybe a .22 for some shots but i can tell you how many rounds of 5,56 or bigger you can fire out of a normal outer barrel: 1 - with a catastrophic mailfunction, blowing the upper and the "barrel" in your face.
And that is, given you were able to construct something to chamber that round in the first place (like rabagast stated: no chamber, no ejector, no firing pin - no Bolt that even can chamber a real round, let alone hold it in place).

So, why did i put the word "barrel" in quotes? Well, it isn't a barrel, it is just a pipe that looks like one. So like i said above and rabagast stated: that so called barrel is made out of metal in a certain manufacturing process which does not allow it to handle the pressure of the gas produced by a 5,56mm cartridge. Also it does not have any rifling which makes it near impossible to hit something on larger distances. You COULD fire a 5,56 from a smoothbore barrel, but it isn't that smart - but that is something else and got nothing to do with the statement from israels government.