THE GRAND GENERAL FEEDBACK THREAD!

Feedback and debriefings from Berget 9
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Post by Waldo » 10 Jul 2011, 17:26

The problem is, that there will be a lot of confusion if we cancel the armbands. there are a lot of camo patterns that are ok for one side, but they look similar to another side (for example the italian vegetata can be confused with a desert pattern)

But i think this is a matter to be discussed in another thread.
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Post by spin_t » 11 Jul 2011, 01:14

Glamav,all the people from the car after the BAV hit was dead and headed to respawn,nobody was healed .
Anyway looks like was many confusions this year ( like always ),so maybe we open a new thread with "what we should do to improve this game for next year" !
We r just blaming one side or another but is all of us who r making this game to be as it was,so come with good solutions,and next year look around and kick in the ass all this idiots who r not falow the rules !
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Post by A_Muller » 11 Jul 2011, 10:29

Just ONLY allow US 3 Color DCU and US Woodland BDU and you've got no, zip, zero, nada, nil confucion on what team you're in.
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Post by Windi^ » 11 Jul 2011, 12:34

Long story short:

+Logistics (water, toilets etc)
+General feel on the Janco city
+Most of the other players

-Armband colors. Why two different blues? There is another colors also, like yellow.
-BE need to enforce their own rules they have stated. If they do not do this, it is useless to have rules in the first place. (If we report a failure to obey the rule, I really don't like to hear for the GM that the breaking of the rule was such a small one, that he doesn't want to react on that)
-Chroning still a joke, it just shows that you have to go around the camps/game area chroning weapons on random.
-Need more GM's. There should be at least one, preferably two in all of the bases taking care of general issues, taking care of the artillery strikes etc. Now everything takes too long time.
-The irresponsible fooling with the fireworks in the beginning of the beer party by BE crew. This was just plain idiotic and basically it was an accident waiting to happen. Luckily this time no one got hurt, but still, what the hell? This kind of behavior doesn't really raise the trust on BE crew in any situation, just the opposite.

Just about it. Other stuff is till depending only on the players:
-Take your hits
-Keep your cool
-Do not cheat on the weapon classes
-Learn basic English
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Post by Skif » 12 Jul 2011, 20:39

That was my first Berget and it was awesome. In Russia i like playing LARP-style of games, and the level of LARP at Berget was great for me. Thanks, you made this game great. See you next year.
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Post by Okota » 14 Jul 2011, 11:56

Armbands....
They have to be handed out by the berget crew at the entry!
Or return to the green/desert uniform recognition ONLY.
either the way its pointless. i saw NAF players in green CAMO! not olive green trousers with pitch blak/dark blue armbands - invisible from more than 10m. And when you aply for the next berget game you could check the box named i already have an armband from previous berget = discount, and if no armband at the entry either you buy a new one or you go home.

Airstrikes... When i was on night raid of NAF base on request for an airstrike i recived this information from our HQ: "Stealth plane airstrike mission is unavailable because Berget crew is aware of the stealth mission so its not stealth anymore..." LOL?
Calling hits..
In Poland we call cheaters Terminators. So what do you do with terminators? YOU SHOOT THEM UNTIL THEY DIE. :twisted:

And again many thanks to the RSA and other Russian teams again fighting along your side gives the best Berget experience and alot of fun!
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PS
I HAVE to add this... Poldovian base looked like slums on a garbage dump compared to the NAF base WHY IS THAT??? I payed the same money as NAF PLAYERS!!!!!One shower dismantled right after game end or sooner? Toilets not emptied. Car park right next to the base on NAF side and Poldovians had to walk more than half the way of the game area to their cars!!
High grass in tents?? And no signs on tents for what teams are they put up? 9h after i put up my tent someone came and told me to move because this part is for Xth platoon..

BERGET CREW answer this WHY NAF gets always better base locations???????
Yep! I'm a dentist.
You WILL talk!

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Post by Blackwolf » 14 Jul 2011, 13:57

Hello

Okota
PS
I HAVE to add this... Poldovian base looked like slums on a garbage dump compared to the NAF base WHY IS THAT??? I payed the same money as NAF PLAYERS!!!!!One shower dismantled right after game end or sooner? Toilets not emptied. Car park right next to the base on NAF side and Poldovians had to walk more than half the way of the game area to their cars!!
High grass in tents?? And no signs on tents for what teams are they put up? 9h after i put up my tent someone came and told me to move because this part is for Xth platoon..
Well i will answer that for you:

It is the commanders decision and job as a GAMEMASTER TRUSTEE to call BE crew and tell them the base needs toilets cleaned trash bags collected and new ones to be put in place.

It is also the commanders decision to keep thir base clean and tell th men to clean up.

NAF car park was 1 km down the road.

Also it is the Job of the commander to mark the tents for his Battalion ( which was done allready on teusday by NAF Commanders.

Last year it was NAF who had the Tall grass bases and bases on the rocks.

So stop bitching about and talk your commander about this.

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Post by Ober-Lix » 14 Jul 2011, 14:55

Blackwolf wrote:Hello

Okota
PS
I HAVE to add this... Poldovian base looked like slums on a garbage dump compared to the NAF base WHY IS THAT??? I payed the same money as NAF PLAYERS!!!!!One shower dismantled right after game end or sooner? Toilets not emptied. Car park right next to the base on NAF side and Poldovians had to walk more than half the way of the game area to their cars!!
High grass in tents?? And no signs on tents for what teams are they put up? 9h after i put up my tent someone came and told me to move because this part is for Xth platoon..
Well i will answer that for you:

It is the commanders decision and job as a GAMEMASTER TRUSTEE to call BE crew and tell them the base needs toilets cleaned trash bags collected and new ones to be put in place.

It is also the commanders decision to keep thir base clean and tell th men to clean up.

NAF car park was 1 km down the road.

Also it is the Job of the commander to mark the tents for his Battalion ( which was done allready on teusday by NAF Commanders.

Last year it was NAF who had the Tall grass bases and bases on the rocks.

So stop bitching about and talk your commander about this.

Regardss

Blackwolf
I can only second that. the base of 1st Inf. Bat. NAF last year was not only hampered by high thick gras but after wlking and driving aroud on it it turned into a swamp sticky deep clay pit and a little beck running through it. We did our best to cope with it and keeped our hygeene as well as our morals.
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Post by A_Muller » 14 Jul 2011, 15:15

At Berget 5 the Finnish freedom Fighter faction had their camp IN a swamp. Don't complain :P

I barely got to sleep (was a NATO Ranger), but when I did get sleep it was IN the trenches, taking constant fire from the russians.


When you go to Berget do not expect the Waldorf Astoria, expect to shit in a hole in the ground, wipe your ass with the wet wipes YOU bring, and barely get any sleep, and if so on the ground. Then everything else will be just a big bonus.
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Post by Windi^ » 14 Jul 2011, 17:24

A_Muller wrote:At Berget 5 the Finnish freedom Fighter faction had their camp IN a swamp. Don't complain :P
That was the best place I ever slept. You could choose your place, nice soft place. And the sleep, oh god was it good.

Also, we dug holes to each company and appointed everyone where they should go and make the number two. That way there wasn't shit all over the place. This was must because we had no toilets.

Also we appointed everyone where garbage should be put, everyone did that also.

Only thing we had was water. No tents, no electricity, no toilets. And still we managed just fine. It is up to everyone themselves how they cope, how tidy the camp is etc. So everyone, look in the mirror and think what YOU can do to make it better. It is not up to commanders to watch over you like little children. We are all grown ups here.
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Post by Panzergraf » 14 Jul 2011, 21:33

Okota wrote:I HAVE to add this... Poldovian base looked like slums on a garbage dump compared to the NAF base WHY IS THAT???
I don't know where in the Poldavian camp you stayed, but in our corner it was nice. In my opinion better than the NAF base which, I remember from the B6 and B7 NATO base, gets impossibly dusty when it's dry.

Our toilets were OK too. AS far as porta-potties go, these weren't too stinky.
Yes, some times you have to dump your poop on top of some other bloke's poop, but that's really not the end of the world.
Now, the B6 toilets, those were nasty! There was shit on the seats, man! On the SEATS! :x

As for the shower; I don't know. We checked in to a hotel after the game ended :)


It's reasonable of you to expect some level of equality with regards to what we receive for our money, but complaining about the grass being too tall is just nit picking.
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Post by Buffel » 14 Jul 2011, 22:12

Panzergraf wrote:It's reasonable of you to expect some level of equality with regards to what we receive for our money, but complaining about the grass being too tall is just nit picking.
+1
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Post by EagleDriver » 15 Jul 2011, 00:46

I thought that the NAF base was clean and suitable. The parking was a little far off, especially when carrying gear up hill back to the base. With all of those Polly's attacking you could have at least stopped to give me a ride once. :D
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Post by Robin-Hood » 15 Jul 2011, 02:10

EagleDriver wrote:I thought that the NAF base was clean and suitable. The parking was a little far off, especially when carrying gear up hill back to the base. With all of those Polly's attacking you could have at least stopped to give me a ride once. :D
Same goes for us actually, unless you broke the rules & parked your civvy vehicle in the camp.

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Post by Infinity » 17 Jul 2011, 23:02

Panzergraf wrote:Yes, some times you have to dump your poop on top of some other bloke's poop, but that's really not the end of the world.
/QFT :lol: :lol: :lol:
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