"THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

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"THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by Berget-events » 23 Oct 2018, 11:20

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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by Panzergraf » 23 Oct 2018, 16:09

I posted this in the Infor for Berget 17 thread too, and Arradin said he would take a look at it. But I will repeat it here as it's a more suitable thread :)
Noticed some weird things in the camo rules that don't really make sense:
Tropentarn (3-color desert flecktarn) is on the Red side, though it would fit better on the Blue side, as they have similar desert-lik camos on that team, like Vegetato and stuff.

And Marpat and Digital Woodland is on the Blue side, though it would fit better on the Red side, which has similar looking camos - such as Flecktarn.

IMHO Tropentarn should be moved to the Blue side, and Marpat/Digi-Woodland should be moved to the Red side.
I've mentioned this in previous camo threads over the years.
Swapping Tropentard to Blue and Marpat/Digi-woodland to Red would not hurt balance too much, I think. Neither are very common uniforms at Berget, from what I've seen.

Having Tropentarn on the Blue side would give players who want to play in German gear a valid uniform option for that side, as they can just combine their existing vests, guns and headgear with a Tropentarn uniform.
Same with Marpat on the Red side and people wanting to use modern US kits.

And first and foremost it would make both sides look more unified, without "odd man out" desert uniforms on the otherwise dark woodland Red side, and dark woodland uniforms on the otherwise light green/desert Blue side.

I know I don't make the rules, but it's what I would do
In my experience, even with armbands, looking at what uniforms players wear is the easiest way to identify friend or foe. By making sure both sides have a somewhat unified look (of course balance must be a priority too), this becomes easier.
As a bonus, it also improves immersion - just like the rules about tents and vehicles having to look military. The Red and Blue forces will look and feel more like actual military forces if the camos people wear aren't all over the place - even if people will still wear slightly different uniforms.
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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by NightSinner » 24 Oct 2018, 00:44

MARPAT/CADPAT has been part of the blue faction for the last 6 years and I know a few who wear it (myself included)

It's a Western camo and hence should be on the blue side
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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by Panzergraf » 24 Oct 2018, 07:16

NightSinner wrote:
24 Oct 2018, 00:44
MARPAT/CADPAT has been part of the blue faction for the last 6 years and I know a few who wear it (myself included)
And I've complained about that every year. It was put on the blue side because it's "digital" - in other words it's flectarn made with a different manufacturing process. Dots and pixels do the same thing.
It's a Western camo and hence should be on the blue side
So is Tropentarn and Danish Desert, and for that matter a bunch of other camos on the Red side. No eastern nations use these camos, while plenty of eastern nations use Marpat or copies of it. (Georgia was given a bunch of Marpat uniforms before the 2008 war with Russia).
Not that East or West matters in this context. Red Team and Blue Team are both made up factions this year, nationality of a uniform shouldn't matter at all, only what it looks like.
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Post by M.Koho » 24 Oct 2018, 20:06

I'll just dip in a little bit regarding the finnish camos: I personally hope that M05 (and M91) would be moved to TFC, and I know many others who do the same. Anyways just please lock down the camos before ticket release.

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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by BigDane » 01 Nov 2018, 15:57

M.Koho wrote:
24 Oct 2018, 20:06
I'll just dip in a little bit regarding the finnish camos: I personally hope that M05 (and M91) would be moved to TFC, and I know many others who do the same. Anyways just please lock down the camos before ticket release.

I know you guys will come up with the best decision!
Days are running out, any news about this?
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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by Arradin » 01 Nov 2018, 16:00

BigDane wrote:
01 Nov 2018, 15:57
M.Koho wrote:
24 Oct 2018, 20:06
I'll just dip in a little bit regarding the finnish camos: I personally hope that M05 (and M91) would be moved to TFC, and I know many others who do the same. Anyways just please lock down the camos before ticket release.

I know you guys will come up with the best decision!
Days are running out, any news about this?
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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by OzCam » 04 Nov 2018, 21:16

A funny thing happened this year. I have 9 different loadouts. All of them except one are on the Red side. I want to play on Blue... so I have to wear MultiCam.

(PS: I think MultiCam is a great camo in certain places. I'm not 100% sure it's the best for Swedish countryside :wink:)
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Post by Skulz » 05 Nov 2018, 18:04

i see there is a new camo coming, its called Concamo, if that is out wich faction will it becomeing to? /its uses the same colours as flecktarn.
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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by G-TAC_Noclip » 06 Nov 2018, 14:09

Will MULTICAM BLACK be acceptable camo for Recon units? Since it's not really black, more of a really dark green.


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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by Arradin » 06 Nov 2018, 14:23

G-TAC_Noclip wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:09
Will MULTICAM BLACK be acceptable camo for Recon units? Since it's not really black, more of a really dark green.


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As the name suggests , it goes under multicam, so it depends what team you are looking into joining.

And no its not Dark green, its Black as the same suggests aswell ;)
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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by G-TAC_Noclip » 06 Nov 2018, 14:31

Arradin wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:23
G-TAC_Noclip wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:09
Will MULTICAM BLACK be acceptable camo for Recon units? Since it's not really black, more of a really dark green.


Pic just for camo pattern reference
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As the name suggests , it goes under multicam, so it depends what team you are looking into joining.

And no its not Dark green, its Black as the same suggests aswell ;)
Well me and my group were planning on joining TFC Recon/mountaineer. Also fine, i'm ok with it being called black as long as i can use it ^_^. My best gear setup is in this camo. Would love to be able to bring it.

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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by Arradin » 06 Nov 2018, 14:38

G-TAC_Noclip wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:31
Arradin wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:23
G-TAC_Noclip wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:09
Will MULTICAM BLACK be acceptable camo for Recon units? Since it's not really black, more of a really dark green.


Pic just for camo pattern reference
Image
As the name suggests , it goes under multicam, so it depends what team you are looking into joining.

And no its not Dark green, its Black as the same suggests aswell ;)
Well me and my group were planning on joining TFC Recon/mountaineer. Also fine, i'm ok with it being called black as long as i can use it ^_^. My best gear setup is in this camo. Would love to be able to bring it.
Yes, TFC can use Multicam
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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by G-TAC_Noclip » 06 Nov 2018, 14:58

Arradin wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:38
G-TAC_Noclip wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:31
Arradin wrote:
06 Nov 2018, 14:23


As the name suggests , it goes under multicam, so it depends what team you are looking into joining.

And no its not Dark green, its Black as the same suggests aswell ;)
Well me and my group were planning on joining TFC Recon/mountaineer. Also fine, i'm ok with it being called black as long as i can use it ^_^. My best gear setup is in this camo. Would love to be able to bring it.
Yes, TFC can use Multicam
Okay, thanks a lot for a fast answer!

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Re: "THE NEW" - GREAT CAMO THREAD.

Post by AceCunow » 06 Nov 2018, 16:36

Just to make tjings clear now. Multicam is on Blue. That meens all multicam cammos right? Standard, Tropic, And black?
Correct?

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