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Post by vardemis » 09 Sep 2009, 10:55

until no furter info by Loslolos I'll suspend the sharing of the video :)
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Post by freno » 09 Sep 2009, 14:56

Yes, i think so too Brujo! I didn´t know the hole story either. I do NOT want to offend anyone, and i´m sorry if i did. I still hope Losolos and his father continuing makes faboulus as-movies!
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Post by Andy McClane » 09 Sep 2009, 15:14

Brujo, you are so right!

Unfortunately for everybody, I received this PM:
Losolos wrote:hi andy ..

the video will not go online anymore .. thats my decision !
The cameraman is my father ;) so I managed this things easily !

Theres no word that we don`t do other videos on B8 but it will never be public again.
I have enough Comrades from several countrys who waited for the B7 and get a copy….
So next year this will be the only way to get one…

See you on b8

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My reply to him:
And you are sure you are NOT over-reacting now?

So when someone points out a mistake you made, obviously not on purpose, you cancel everything and deny all other players the fun of watching? I liked it when I watched it! So now no one else should be able to have fun with your movie? Strange... Why?

I only asked for a small credit, just the name, and this is your decision? Please reconsider, or you are very smallminded.

Before you said:
Losolos wrote:If you want i will edit the video, no problem for me.
So what's the problem? Just edit the small credit! And make sure you credit your father as the cameraman TOO! :)

- Andy
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So let's hope he will reconsider!!!

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Post by vardemis » 09 Sep 2009, 15:32

easy guy leave the pressure get down ;)

Loslolos cool down too ;)

But andy what is the problem to not be credited ?

I'm a on the official B6 photo and on the official movie :) I did not mak so much noise as you ;)

Loslolos just credit him at the end do not rebuild the entire video too much work for one guy, a little thank you to : bla bla bla bla etc

I think if he see his name and the name is enought

by the way, it was a public event ;) so all picture taken during this event are free of legal problems about right of image ;) European law :)

So andy you can ask to be credited but Loslolos is not obliged to ... You can ask somme meney but the law say that Loslolos is not obliged to pay ;)

Image property is only un private places or private event, here is a public event ;)
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Post by Andy McClane » 09 Sep 2009, 17:21

That's a lot of smileys vardemis...

Anyway, nobody should use an extensive amount of pictures taken by somebody else, and all of the same photographer, and use them as if they were is own. So yes, even though you talked about me in the third person, you were right that just mentioning me would be solving all problems. Easy job!

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Post by Losolos » 09 Sep 2009, 17:36

First of all, great job editing the movie. Nice soundtrack and camerawork too! I enjoyed watching.

Unfortunately, you used a lot of my pictures as if they were yours, without any credit to me in any form. As a photographer, I cannot let that happen without me knowing beforehand. Apart from the credits, I dit not spend so much time and money on these pictures to let it happen the way it did now.

If you would've asked, I would've allowed you to use them. But you never asked, although you knew they were mine. Maybe you never thought of it, but it happened nonetheless.

How do you plan to solve this dispute?

You can either re-edit the movie and make sure it is uploaded in the right way, including my name, or we can agree on a fee for each picture used to settle the situation. I do believe you never did this on purpose, but I honestly hope you want to make it right know that you know something went wrong.
that was the first PM of andy...

im always cool ...nearly no emotion.. ohh i forget laughing and smile
so you hardly see me angry ...:D

for me the topic is cleared .. we will have next year another situation
but that will be discussed on another table ....

see you all at B8

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Post by Brujo » 09 Sep 2009, 21:02

See you all again next year guys...
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Post by skarpskyttar » 20 Sep 2009, 17:07

Ok.. I don't get up anything when I type the password and stuff to enter the vardemis site.. only a blank page and a "logout" button, can anyone direct my path ?

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Post by Tystnad » 21 Sep 2009, 02:38

Yeah, read the thread and you'll notice why. Its been taken down. :wink:
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Post by vardemis » 21 Sep 2009, 10:55

due to complain about the use of picture not credited from another person than loslolos I cut of the possibliity to watch or download the movie :)

But I can put it back in the minute if loslolos and the other have an ageement about this (don't expect that :( )

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Post by Andy McClane » 21 Sep 2009, 14:36

vardemis wrote:But I can put it back in the minute if loslolos and the other have an ageement about this (don't expect that :( )
For me that would be no problem! If only he would be nice enough a guy to apologize and at least acknowledge the fact that he made a mistake, it would be fine by me.

I would even agree on not editting the video as long as he would at least show a little less arrogance (and taking the movie offline and denying everybody the fun of watching IS arrogance), but so far he doesn't seem to be able to pull that off. Too bad! I really liked that movie!

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Post by Losolos » 21 Sep 2009, 15:33

hi,

when i get time and my edit PC is running again there will be a new version available .. don`t call it arrogance when you not have the background.... :)

when the spare parts arrive it will be ready in about 1-2 weeks, i hope.


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Post by vardemis » 21 Sep 2009, 17:06

Losolos wrote:hi,

when i get time and my edit PC is running again there will be a new version available .. don`t call it arrogance when you not have the background.... :)

when the spare parts arrive it will be ready in about 1-2 weeks, i hope.


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contact me to download it and put it on the weezo to share it :p

like the first one :p
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Post by Ober-Lix » 23 Sep 2009, 09:51

Brilliant job Ole. Since the law about publishing pictures have been mentioned, The question is, is it private or commercial publication ?
Has the movie been made to earn money ? I don´t think so !
He is just showing his private movie to everyone like a photo album you do among your friends.
We all know now that there are some pictures in it, that Andy had made. In my albums and videos are lots of pictures others have made, that does not stop me from showing them without telling everytime whos pictures some of them are.
If I was making money with showing them, I would have to give credit to the creators.
I think some one is over reacting a little bit here. :)
My advice Ole is, don´t do all that work anymore for everyone to see, do it for those who apprechiate seeing some memories of an event they have taken part in.

Next time should you need some more pictures to add to the video, Freno or I we have some good once you are welcome to use without mentioning our names or having to pay credits.

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Post by vardemis » 30 Sep 2009, 11:54

Hello,

I have received several message to ask me the video (no-one is pointed !!!! just a reminder for all).

The video is not mine, so I can't dispose of it as I want or can't do anything without the owner authorisation.

The video will not be available until Loslolos give me the new edited version.

Don't press Loslolos to have the new version too ! He is doing this for his pleasure and our !!!!

There's plenty of time, don't stress for a week or two or more.

So don't PM to have it anyway ! Not until I reopen the access to the video !

until then wait and play airsoft !

have fun

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