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Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 12:07
by Eldoriath
motörhead wrote: According to my doctor it's a virus-based cold, resulting in snot and lung-slime needing heavy coughing...
...if the slime-coughing persist more than two weeks I'll be put on antibiotika like penicillin or something like that.
Anti-biotica against a virus? :x
That doesn't do any good, actually it's only bad for you. Though i'm quite sure you are aware of this, it's sad that many people fail to realise that anti-biotica is not against virus and only usefull against bacteria (which you should be able to tell by the name honestly).

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 14:26
by motorhead
Eldoriath wrote:
motörhead wrote: According to my doctor it's a virus-based cold, resulting in snot and lung-slime needing heavy coughing...
...if the slime-coughing persist more than two weeks I'll be put on antibiotika like penicillin or something like that.
Anti-biotica against a virus? :x
That doesn't do any good, actually it's only bad for you. Though i'm quite sure you are aware of this, it's sad that many people fail to realise that anti-biotica is not against virus and only usefull against bacteria (which you should be able to tell by the name honestly).
My bad. Of course we don't use that against virus, but it's not good that so many of us have to stay home from work after getting infected by a hefty cold gathered from a Swedish event. Makes one reflect over one's health and maybe the sanitary conditions a bit. I don't mind living "back to basic" in the field, but this is rather serious for me as an employee anyhow.

Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 09:14
by Kartoon
I was sick when coming to the event. The first two days I basically worked pumping myself with swedish ibuprofeine(worked nicely). The cold, sleepless nights and running in the woods for days made me eventually feel a lot better but maybe some of you work the opposite :D

My opinion: People get sick. If you have to be away from work and there is no coverage for sickness(so you don't get payed for your sick leave) then too bad, you could've got sick at home as well.

On a side note, as I told you I was sick coming to the event and I left it there, maybe you got it from me? :P

Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 12:00
by Jojis
I (SRP) lost my voice in the final day after too much shouting. After that I guess I got too vulnerable in the throat and got the same sickness. Green slime running from nose and throat even still today (2 weeks now). Propably there were something in the air or ground I wasn't immune enough for, don't know how you got it so easily though.

Posted: 13 Jul 2008, 13:02
by Dre@mz
Baron wrote:Nothing reported from the UN base as far as I know.
We where only 37 people and I didn't hear anything of the people being inffected.
Negative!

OC, Bravo Romeo SL got some kind of bacteria... acting like a cold... we went to a pharmacie during B6 and he took some shots during the week, back in Portugal.

Nothing serious...

Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 06:45
by StaG
Not trying to piss anyone off, but when it comes to spending several days in the woods sleeping in tents etc. the organizers can only do so much if the players themselves have not taken measures to make sure they stay fit throught the game. Some basic things to remember:

1. Try to avoid cotton underwear. Cotton is not the best material when it comes to transmitting moisture from the skin.
2. If you are using a sleeping bag (Which you should!), take off as much clothing as possible before going in, and change your underwear/any additional clothing to a clean, dry set. This helps with staying warm and staying warm helps you get a good sleep.
3. The most important thing is to try to stay warm and dry. Layering clothes to match the ambient temperature is not only for super-geardos, even the most rugged shit-guerilla can do it!

Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 09:36
by WhiteAce
StaG,

You're almost right there. You forgot that it was pretty warm at day time. At those times some people had to sleep as well. I've heard people tell about waking up - soaking wet, because of the sweat! coming out of your sleeping bag in that condition will not help avoiding the colder atmosphere around you.
Staying dry is something you have to learn this way. Don't get wet because of the sweat also - in those cases it would be wise te get rid of that sleeping bag to stay dry.

Posted: 14 Jul 2008, 11:02
by Bloodhound
Nope!!

Just lost some weight but that's a positive side effect :D

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 12:16
by vardemis
I get a cold too and an allergic réaction too something, but a little ibuprofene and an anti-istaminic pills make the deal :)

:p

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 13:39
by jofred
Nato Fox 5

Yep sure did got the running nose, green slime from throat.
Better now but it lasted 2 weeks.

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 14:09
by StaG
WhiteAce wrote:StaG,

You're almost right there. You forgot that it was pretty warm at day time. At those times some people had to sleep as well. I've heard people tell about waking up - soaking wet, because of the sweat! coming out of your sleeping bag in that condition will not help avoiding the colder atmosphere around you.

Staying dry is something you have to learn this way. Don't get wet because of the sweat also - in those cases it would be wise te get rid of that sleeping bag to stay dry.
Yes, you are correct.
I composed the message in a hurry, hence the lack of thoroughness in my explanation. Cotton t-shirts etc. absorb a lot of sweat and as such is an uncomfortable factor when the temperature goes down for the night.

It is also true that one would be wise to avoid sleeping inside a hot tent, or in a sleeping bag during the hot daytime. One would be wise to put even short breaks between missions to good use, if there is nothing important to do:

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Oh, and a quick tip:

T-shirts and underwear made from moisture-transferring materials, for example the US army ACU-undershirt, are really good for multi-day operations. I hadn't bothered with such stuff before Berget, but gathering from the experiences there, I will not overlook such important points in the future!

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 15:06
by vardemis
StaG wrote: T-shirts and underwear made from moisture-transferring materials, for example the US army ACU-undershirt, are really good for multi-day operations. I hadn't bothered with such stuff before Berget, but gathering from the experiences there, I will not overlook such important points in the future!
Or maybe more expensive but work very very well is a Under-Armour tshirt

and underwear

there's some for hot weather and cold weather.

It could dry (all wet of swet) in around 5 minutes in the sun or in the wind,

I wear one hot weather tshirt, plus swedish long tshirt, under bdu jacket and TLBV, the only day I have ill it was when I put too much hot clothe on me.

The other probleme is during night time (midnight to 8 am). It's hot when you play or you walk but it's cold when you stay put, if you put too much hot clothe for waiting time, you have get rid of hot things to go on patrol or in the battle.

Theres not enought temperature difference in the forest than in the base.

I think next year I will by some cold weather under-armour for night time and some hot weather underarmour for day time !

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 15:41
by Windi^
Fleece fabrics are also good. They are warm and still transfer moisture well. I used Zensah underwear at day times and when I was sleeping and fleece underwear during evening/night and that worked very well.

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 22:26
by WhiteAce
vardemis wrote:


It could dry (all wet of swet) in around 5 minutes in the sun or in the wind,
Could you give us a link on where to buy this stuff! It sounds really great!

Posted: 15 Jul 2008, 23:36
by vardemis
WhiteAce wrote:
vardemis wrote:


It could dry (all wet of swet) in around 5 minutes in the sun or in the wind,
Could you give us a link on where to buy this stuff! It sounds really great!
http://www.underarmour.com/shop/mens/ta ... 005383-390
use by the usmc :) but not by me :)

this
http://www.underarmour.com/shop/mens/ta ... 005039-390
It's what I wear during the all game !
it's a compression tshirt. That's not make you beatiful :)

like :
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second skin but it makes your little default up to be seen

Take a look to the tactical product line ;)

but
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,93820,00.html

beaware that high temperature or flame are not welcome