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Share your Berget "know-how" and what is necessary to be prepared for when going to Berget-games.
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Post by Rainer » 24 Nov 2011, 19:47

Ticks are extremly common on islands and location near water.
As mention earlier ,the long term effects can be serious.
And infections caused by ticks can lead to Chronic fatigue syndrome (ME)
But if you are afraid of animals you shouldnt persue a Airsoft game held in location such as Berget... The forest. :?
Buy Djungelolja, a sweedish bug repelant. Works like a sharm.
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Post by TerrenceAnth » 24 Nov 2011, 22:09

Aw look out for ticks, got it and buy bug spray Rodger. Now to pack tick removal tools and good to go :P
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Post by Panzergraf » 24 Nov 2011, 22:53

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_borreliosis

Härnösand should be too far north for it to be much of an issue, though.
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Post by freno » 25 Nov 2011, 18:34

Panzergraf wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_borreliosis

Härnösand should be too far north for it to be much of an issue, though.
i live 400km north of Härnösand and we used to find them on our pets during summer. I recon they´ve travelled during the last years!!!
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Post by motorhead » 25 Nov 2011, 18:49

freno wrote:
Panzergraf wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_borreliosis

Härnösand should be too far north for it to be much of an issue, though.
i live 400km north of Härnösand and we used to find them on our pets during summer. I recon they´ve travelled during the last years!!!
The new generation Polar-Ticks are training for the new ice-age :))
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Post by Kvarnen » 25 Nov 2011, 22:12

Gugge wrote:I'm sorry to say, but even if they are protected, if they bite me, i'll chop their head of... (self defence...??)
By entering the woods, we enter their homes. They simple protect themself. They only attack if you provoke them. I saw some dead snakes this year, someone decapitated them. It sure pissed me off. All non-swedes and all who feel unsure should read up on "Allemansrätten" More about in the rules of Berget.
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Post by Mr Black » 26 Nov 2011, 11:33

Swedish law says that killing a protected species can get you convicted to imprisonment for up to two years. According to swedish law you can be placed under citizens arrest by anyone whitnessing a crime where the sentence can be imprisonment.

FYI I will practice that right. If you can´t respect the nature.... stay out of it.
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Post by Ober-Lix » 26 Nov 2011, 12:29

Mr Black wrote:Swedish law says that killing a protected species can get you convicted to imprisonment for up to two years. According to swedish law you can be placed under citizens arrest by anyone whitnessing a crime where the sentence can be imprisonment.

FYI I will practice that right. If you can´t respect the nature.... stay out of it.
There are a few items you will have to observe if you are to carry out a citizens arrest.
- to prevent iminent crime
- no police available in calling distance
- to prevent danger to others
- no possabillity to identify the person breaking the law
- person trying to leave the scene of crime
this paragraph of citizens arrest is a very tricky one and can get you into trouble. There is a lot more to it then meats the eye. If you are able, for instance to establish the persons details i.e. ID, you can not arrest him.
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Post by kjsaw » 26 Nov 2011, 13:09

Swedish law differs from german law in this respect:

https://lagen.nu/1942:740#K24P7
7 § Om det finns skäl att anhålla någon, får en polisman i brådskande fall gripa honom även utan anhållningsbeslut.

Om den som har begått brott, på vilket fängelse kan följa, påträffas på bar gärning eller flyende fot, får han gripas av envar. Envar får också gripa den som är efterlyst för brott. Den gripne skall skyndsamt överlämnas till närmaste polisman. Lag (1987:1211).
Literally; If a crime has been commited for which imprisonment is a possible punishment, and the suspect is fleeing, anyone may arrest him. The arrested person should be handed to the nearest policeman.

And I have now taken this thread further off topic!
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Post by Mr Black » 26 Nov 2011, 13:12

Not according to Swedish law Ober-Lix. There are only a few attributes that needs to be fullfilled to make a citizens arrest in sweden.

1. The crime committed can get the perpetrator sentenced to imprisonment. (E.g. common crimes like shoplifting and vandalism.)
2. You have to whitness the crime being commited by the perpetrator.
3. If the perpetrator flees the scene of the crime, you can only make the citizens arrest if the pursuit has been "continuous". (E.g. the arrest is no longer available if you need to start searching for the perpetrator.)

I see no further use in discussing Swedish law. I only want to emphasise the gravity in obeying Swedish law and respecting the nature while at Berget.
Killing endangered species is very bad publicity for airsoft. :/
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Post by vinni » 26 Nov 2011, 13:24

so bring a damn viper kit and don't kill any snakes!

as for the snake-handling and citizens-arrest procedures, how about a new topic? :P
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Post by Toetach » 27 Nov 2011, 16:34

vinni wrote:so bring a damn viper kit and don't kill any snakes!

as for the snake-handling and citizens-arrest procedures, how about a new topic? :P
Amen to that brother!

This topic's about the packinglist:
-add Swedish lawbooks to the list... :D
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Post by Waldo » 27 Nov 2011, 21:02

Toetach wrote:
vinni wrote:so bring a damn viper kit and don't kill any snakes!

as for the snake-handling and citizens-arrest procedures, how about a new topic? :P
Amen to that brother!

This topic's about the packinglist:
-add Swedish lawbooks to the list... :D
Common sense, a good portion of responsibility, and respect of the nature should do the trick.
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Post by Skies » 26 Jan 2012, 01:30

Hi Guys!! I've got another (hopefully useful) tip, dont pack a tick removal set but instead take a q-tip (the things to clean your ears) and use this to circle around the tick = the tick loses its grip in the skin and can be flicked/stoked of. The problem with ticksets are that if you don't get an proper grip you'll probably rip the body off and the head will remain lodged in your skin and this will cause an infection. :(

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Post by Waldo » 26 Jan 2012, 03:26

i found "homeade tick removal sets" the best. cut a V into an old credit card or something like that and remove the tick with it. for me it works better than a comercial tick removal set.
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